it is a big management responsibility, at the pentagon and they'll go through changes and fiscal challenges, without the sequester, and, so ultimately the proof in the pudding will be in how he performs as defense secretary and if he comes out of the blocks as a veteran professional, it is not a big deal and he can put it behind him. >> chris: bill one way the white house is trying to clear the path for two nominees, hagel at defense and brennan at cia, is that they have kind of grudgingly been dragged out, have agreed to release some of the e-mails that chart how the talking points were developed after the benghazi terror attacks from the time of the attack until susan rice went on the five sunday shows five days later and said it was a spontaneous demonstration in reaction to the anti-islamic video. what do you expect the senators to find? >> i don't know, but i would like to see them -- they are not classified e-mails, they are e-mails about the pr performance after the attack and should be made public and let us judge whether he was honest, or whether he used his position at the white h